2026-07-21 - Board of Health Meeting

0:07Today is Yeah. Take two. Take two.

0:14Today is July 21st. We're going to enter into the uh child and border health meeting uh 6 p.m. All board members are present as well as uh health director

0:22Jim Philbrook. Um we also have [clears throat] Gary Magnuson from CMG Environmental.

0:28Um, and first issue that we'd like to talk about is the Flint Road landfill.

0:34And that's specifically why we asked Gary to bring us up to speed. Hold on.

0:38Oh, I jumped I jumped my hoops. Um, sorry, Gary.

0:42That was that was the pre that was my pre-con conversation. Um, I got to keep my mind.

0:47I'd like to see if um we'd like to make a motion to accept the prior meeting minutes for June 23rd, 2026. I'll make a

0:55motion to accept the prior meeting minutes of June 23rd, 2026 as printed. I'll second that.

1:04All in favor?

1:05I I already read it. Thank you. Yeah, I jumped that one.

1:10All right, moving on to old business is going to be the um Flint

1:18Road landfill update. Gary, so if you could bring us up to speed and we know no news is good news, and it's been quiet, but it's been a quarter or so

1:26since we've actually had a one-on-one with you. We just thought it was time to just hear what you had to say about it.

1:32So, excellent.

1:32Well, thanks for the invite. Um, yeah, no news is good news. I'll give you a high high level overview and then you can dig in with any specific questions.

1:41I kind of highlighted some points that are relevant. Um, still sampling 61 homes. We've had no new detections that

1:50have triggered new 500 foot radius. It's good. Um data is very very consistent.

1:57Um most of those homes are still sampled quarterly. Um some we've cut back, but

2:04um like I said, the data is very consistent. We have five homes that have treatment systems installed. Um those

2:13are working well. I just got a data set at 518 tonight for one of the homes um non detect in the treated water and as

2:21you know there's two filters we also detect we sample in between the two that's still non detect and the raw one was right at 20 so that's a system

2:28that's been in place for approaching two years now so we do change outs when we get some detections in that mid sample

2:36but in general systems are working what was that one for pas or Pas those are these are all POS systems

2:43um Five homes have double carbon filters for PAS systems. Um they're working well. Um really no issues with those. No homeowner complaints, nothing like that.

2:55As you do recall, once we get or you may or may not recall, once we get the system in place and document its compliance for one quarter, we then can take those homes off of bottled water.

3:05So those five homes are off of bottled water. Um, I don't know off the top of my head, and I apologize, exactly how many homes are on bottled water now. I'm

3:14guessing it's somewhere between 30 and 40. With the 61 homes we're testing, there's very few. It's over 40.

3:20Over 40. Yeah, there's very few that are non detect and consistently non detect. 43. 43.

3:26Okay. So, there's 43 um that are getting water. There's five that have systems. That's 48. So, that [clears throat] gives us 13 nonexs consistently.

3:37Um, so that aspect, like I said, is going smooth. On a side note, I did speak with

3:44Samantha, my field staff that does the sampling, and a couple homeowners have commented that their bottle water deliveries have been a little late.

3:51We've been receiving complaints all week, and I figured that they switch drivers.

3:56Okay, no problem. I knew you guys were on top of it, but I just wanted I delivered water today. I um I do work

4:03for a lot of other municipalities and you guys are far superior in taking care of the public need. When there's a comment or a question um I usually have

4:12to when we have new detections, I have to hold him back because he tries to deliver water before I can actually talk

4:19to the person. So the protocol is when I get a detection, I send him an a text.

4:25He instantly responds to me, asks me 16 questions. What's the address? What's the homeowner? What's their name? What's their phone number? I get all that to them. I'm on my way to watering. Stop.

4:34Stop. Stop. I need to talk to the homeowner and explain the analytical results. So, I put a call into the homeowner.

4:41Generally, they won't answer my call in the first ring. Um, I'll leave them a message. Um, if I don't hear back in half an hour, I tell Jim, "Go ahead, deliver it." Because I told them we will

4:50provide water. The last thing I want is somebody coming up, somebody at their house saying, "What's going on?" But, uh, you guys have done a great job in

4:57that aspect. Um the so so that's all related to the to the release tracking number and all the

5:06testing going on with that. Um no real change the landfill proper

5:12itself um we did our quarterly our semiannual testing um back in April. The data was very consistent. No change.

5:21We've been working with with mass D. We replaced two of the monitoring wells. Um they were all the all the monitoring

5:30walls except two. So se five of the seven are currently in the waste. Are we talking 54?

5:3754. We're still everything's on 54. The the 61 homes is 54 and 90. So those relate to both landfills. Um and everything is is stable in that aspect.

5:47Oh, I will add you brought up the point.

5:49We did test the wells at 15 Oldtown that we put in place to evaluate possible

5:56sources on Oldtown Road. Um those have now been tested twice and they're basically perfectly clean, very low

6:04detection. So great news on behalf of DPW and what their operations have been up in their yard because I have wells directly downgrading where they're

6:12operating. um but it doesn't lead to another or possible other off-site source. Um we are working on the phase

6:22two aspect of this property and CMD is also working on three or four other phase 2s for sites that are POS.

6:33We this board has asked me many times when can I stop the 500t radius? Why do I have to keep going? We're so far away.

6:39It's unlikely that this contamination we're finding is related to the landfill. I'm in complete agreement with that when we're finding very low

6:47concentrations very far away because POS we know is it's prevalent. It's widespread. It's consistent in the

6:53environment. Um we found it in rural areas that are away from everything. So we're working on um some pretty high

7:03level technical um data analysis that other consultants have used submitted to D and

7:10said we don't believe this source here the landfill is the source 3/4 of a mile away because of the

7:19chemistry. Um, so we we we talked to de about that. We another consultant that we worked with on another project did

7:27some super high level consulting work and we are we're tagging on to that same level.

7:33That's been my argument right from the go.

7:35Yeah. Well, it's a great argument, but the regulation's very very clear.

7:40If you have PIOS and you detect it, it's it's your responsibility till you can prove otherwise.

7:46But I think they they got you chasing the tail is what they got you doing.

7:49They do. But the regulation says you have to get to what's called a phase two and a phase three and you have to provide um very convincing data to say

7:57that it's not from you. And the good news is we haven't um gotten any new detections on the perimeters to go any

8:05further in quite a while. So that help holds us where we are. So now we can take all this data we have and run it through that analysis which

8:11[clears throat]

8:12you know we're months away from getting that into the state but we're we're working on that.

8:16I've been informed that the town of Dudley is a requirement on all new well construction.

8:23I'm not surprised. It's very widespread.

8:26Um the the the issues are um you know once you detect

8:33it if you put a new well in you detect it less than 20 it's a detection but it's not a problem.

8:43It's not above the standard as long as it's not proximal to a disposal site. I thought the standard was was a lot lower than 20

8:5120 it's going to go down to four potentially.

8:54Is that the state standard or the federal EPA? It's not very state has not accepted it yet. It the state said they will.

9:02Oh, they will. They will. Right now it's P6.

9:06Add those six components together and the total is 20 parts per trillion. Billionillion. Trillion.

9:13Trillion. Trillion. Trillion. 20 parts per trillion. PPT.

9:16[clears throat]

9:18The federal is four and two or four and six on two specific compounds.

9:24I don't really want to speak to it because they haven't finalized, but I thought the state was zero.

9:29They they wouldn't accept anything but zero. [snorts] So, the different So, there's drinking water regulations and there's Massachusetts contingency plan

9:37regulations. The MCP, which we're working under for the landfills, um, is 20 parts per trillion. So if you get above 20 within 500 ft of a detection,

9:46it's a part of ours. However, if you went on the other side of Charleston or Dudley, put a well in and it comes up

9:53with a detection, I would believe it's up to the discretion of the municipality how to deal with a detection up to 20.

10:00Above 20, it should be immediate notification DP and that should then become a disposal site. What are they going to do then?

10:08That's not Are they going to Yeah.

10:11Yeah. That's it's it's it's it's a problem. It's going to be a big problem. It is a problem.

10:17It the problem is there. They're just finding out about the state is being is very cautious about issuing a tracking number to a residential home. They don't want to tag

10:26residential homes to tracking numbers, which I can understand, but um maybe they should. I don't know.

10:32I don't really have an opinion on that right now. I digress. Back to this. Um so um 54, we replace two of the monitor

10:40wells. The reason is five of the monitor wells when the original work was done were installed through the waist. There was nowhere else to put them. That's all they could do. Uh that doesn't meet the

10:49protocol for long-term 30-year long-term monitoring and it doesn't meet the protocol for the capping we're doing. So in the plan we submitted to the state.

10:56We told them we were going to replace the wells. So uh two on the northwest corner have since been replaced and the old well that was in the waist has been abandoned and sealed up with that night.

11:07So that one's gone. Next Thursday, Friday, we're going to do two more. And the reason we're doing them now is because they shaped that part of the landfill is ready for us to get there.

11:16Before we couldn't get there, the landfill was too steep. Um, for those I don't know if you guys have been on the site or not. If you haven't, I encourage you to go for a walk. The entire

11:25backside is essentially graded and and um two feet from finished grade right now. Um, the contractor is doing a

11:32really nice job with the general construction, the way it it's being handled. Um their big problem is they cannot get enough COM 97 materials in.

11:43Um to date they've brought in um 11,317

11:49tons which equates to about 50 about 6,000 cubic yards. They have over 30,000 cubic yards of capacity. So they've only

11:58bought in 20% the ex of the of soil allowed to go in there. Um they do have

12:05their hands in a bid for a significant volume of soil which will get them everything they need. Um Jim has been attending the monthly meetings with with

12:13Bruce Haskell from Langland. Um and this contractor and everybody on site um in August, our August meeting will be a

12:20kind of a determining factor if they can get enough material in there. If so, hopefully they'll proceed with capping this year. If not, there'll be an

12:28alternative plan of temporarily seating off part of that landfill and doing a pup cap. next year.

12:34I thought this stuff was all I thought they had it all lined up. There was no Well, everybody thought they every contractor thought they had it lined up.

12:42Um the market for soils um is very light. Not a lot of construction

12:49activity ongoing. Um they have a a contractual term to have it done December 24th, I think it is, of 2026.

12:59So there will be issues to be addressed if that is going to extend. Um, it's a distinct

13:07possibility. I don't have an answer right now. I will have a much better handle after the August meeting. So, maybe we attend this. You know, I'll attend the August or the September.

13:16I straight up don't care.

13:18Um, I tend they have no choice. Um, as long as is [clears throat] the site is maintained over the winter and no

13:27erosion, it doesn't really matter. Um the contract has a the contractor has a lump sum price credit to put in the fill

13:34material in there. He is given that back to the town if he puts in the 30,000 cubic yards that allowed or if he puts in 20. The problem is if he doesn't put

13:44it all in, we have to redesign the cap a little bit because there are drainage swelles along that cap to get the drainage to the detention basin. Well,

13:53if we don't bring it up to the full shape, those swailes need to change, which is going back to DDP, which all can be done. Um, a lot of that'll be on the contract.

14:03Well, then who who pays for that?

14:04The contractor will have some responsibility for that. Okay.

14:07Yeah, we're we're we're pushing very hard. The contractor, I am um ecstatic

14:14that Bruce is involved. Um he I think you'll say he runs a a good meeting and he's very good with his emails. He has

14:23this gentleman, Jonathan, working for him. And Jonathan's pretty harsh with the contractor on where are my submitts. Um, I need this now.

14:33I need a schedule. What's going on? So, um, they're on top of it. You've got you

14:40got you good and and you have a good contractor. I don't know if you guys know this, but the because there's not a ton of activity out there now. They have

14:48scheduled activity for the end of July, beginning of August. They're supposed to be moving a crew of four, three or four guys in there to start moving material the road and doing some other things.

14:58Um, but the only one guy that's been out there is the owner of Amarillo. It's Joe.

15:04So, you're getting quality work and it's going well.

15:09Um, it's just that the soils aren't coming in quick enough.

15:12We We talked about this originally. It's not that timesensitive. It It doesn't really matter. We don't want it to drag

15:19out forever, but I get it. I to be honest with you, I'd rather not go all the way. I'd rather it be lower as long

15:26as it's not an expense to the town. CH, you know, I think um I think they're probably going to be able to get the materials.

15:34It sounded pretty optimistic. Is that from Rhode Island? That one.

15:37Yes. Yeah. And he's got another pretty good chunk. So, as far as what's in there now, um there's 4,900 cubic yards

15:45of Andrex uh CMAP material processed out drawing contaminated soil.

15:51D has been on site twice, has seen that material. They had concerns about it.

15:55Their concerns are I would say completely quelled. There's no odor.

15:59There's no issue. It's beautiful material. It's uniform. They're using that to cover the waist as they relocate it. It's compacting. It's staying on the

16:07slopes. Everybody's very very happy with that. Um so you got about about 5,000 cubic yards of that material and you

16:13have a combined total of about 950 cubic yards of um street sweepings and catch

16:21basins from the town of Charleton, town of Hopedale. And then there's another package of um material coming in from

16:28Salbury Street in Worcester. Um they're digging around out of a storm water control structure. So it's essentially

16:36native materials. So um packages are either being prepared and or re e either

16:42prepared by CMG and reviewed by Langden or prepared by Langden and reviewed by CMG. So there's two LSPs looking at the information all the time before it goes

16:51in. Um everything's very smooth in that process. Um so so that's going well. Um

17:02the mowing 90 Flint Road landfill. Um a little confusion on mulling and I'll take kind of a hit. Bruce Berling

17:11reached out. I said about a month ago I said yeah you can get going. Said just check with the board to make sure your contract's in place. I'm 99% sure it is

17:20and everything's good. Um I think he took a little time waiting. I think he checked with the board. Um I don't think he got in didn't follow up to get an

17:28answer. So he's been out there. He started about a week week and a half ago. I can see it.

17:33He's probably got 30% of it done, 40% of it done. So on track. I did a walk of that landfill. Um the cap looks good.

17:41The molly looks good. And there's no scalping or anything. So no major concerns. And the contract was in play.

17:46Yes, it was. We have to renew it after this year. So did he have to get it done before July 1st? No. No. No. We got one for July after July.

17:56You had two moles. Two most this year. Yeah.

17:59July 1. Well, midsummer and then fall or spring. Yeah, it's usually June, July, and then September, October.

18:07Okay. You can check on I think it's this.

18:12Yeah, I I I wasn't I didn't want to say go.

18:17You did check. I think that's what we talked about.

18:19It's good. But after this year, we're going to have to it's going to have to be up have to re.

18:26So that's the high level um review that I have. Um there there is security. They've got gates across. They're doing an okay job.

18:36We've had I think two or three I'll call them comments or complaints. Um a little bit of a little bit of dirt in the road

18:44and a little bit of dust. Um, I made a call on the dirt in the road to the contractor. Within a half an hour, they

18:51had a broom there sweeping it. I made a call on dust. Within an hour, they had a truck there dusting wetting it down.

18:59Where they getting that water for from?

19:01Well, they so they operator owned the Oxford. I think they operate the or I think they own Oxford asphalt.

19:09Oh, yeah.

19:10So, they're they keep their their water trucks there. So, they're just pulling it from there. I got you. That's close. So that's fair.

19:15Yeah. And oh, by the way, they're using that as the certified scale. So the Andrich materials getting weighed at,

19:23but all these street sweep things and then the Worcester stuff is hitting the scale at Oxford, then coming over. Okay.

19:30So, um, Jim, you haven't heard of I haven't heard police complaints of backups. We've had a few minor issues early on. I think we got those straightened out pretty quick with trucks lining up in the road.

19:39Yeah, that's that's all been uh we haven't heard anything. The police haven't heard any complaints. The only thing was the highway. Um Nick Peele,

19:47we talked about that steep drop off. Um so they put up those um cement barrier, jersey barriers and graded a little

19:55because it was a straight drop and he was afraid that it would undermine the road or if someone went off the road it was just a but they they took care of it right away. So

20:03and we did change the site. Initially the site was set up with one entrance, one exit, same same one and it was problematic. So I convinced them to get

20:11both of them open. So now they have tracking pads on both sides. So trucks can come in and out and circle right around. That's the way to go.

20:16No backing up out of the road or anything. That's the way to go.

20:19Way to go. Um so we just got um another approval for the Andri soils. Another

20:284200 cubic yards. Um really just approved it yesterday, the day before.

20:33So I would imagine that'll start coming again. And usually when that goes, that's um four to five trucks, three or four loads a day. So that'll be 15 20

20:41loads a day. But that really problematic and they need to stockpile that material because that's the material that D

20:48requires them to use for daily cover as they pull back material, pull back waste. So the next task for them is

20:57pulling back waste along Flint Road. The waste pretty much comes to Flint Road.

21:01So the landfill has got to get pulled back and then the grade has got to be made. So as they do that and expose all that trash, they need to put the under material on it.

21:10And there's going to be a swale right there. There will be a swale and there will also be a gas venting trench across there. That's right. That trench.

21:17And then the finished product is there's not a fence across there. And you may or may not have noticed he's got a massive pile of rocks. So as he's pulling on the

21:25back there was a couple stone walls. He pulled those rocks out and those are all going to get placed across the front to restrict access to driving in there with

21:33cars or ATVs or anything because we didn't design it with a fence because the cap was so close to the road. You'd have the boot pile of the fence post be very expensive.

21:42Um, the last bit of information that's relevant, I think, to this board is the contractor reached out to National Grid

21:50to get the poles held so that they can dig around them. Um, we're hoping for a simple, yeah, no problem. We'll take

21:57care of it and kind of went a little sideways and went through, oh, we might need the design, we might need it, we might need it. Got Jim in, got Andrew involved.

22:07Um, we're going to wait a couple days, kind of see where that goes. we need.

22:10We'll have Andrew try to reach out as a municipality. Um there's no design required. It's simply they made a truck to hold the pole, but they pulled the

22:18waste away from it and then put new material there. One day event per pole.

22:23I think we have he he asked for about a week of time. He's got I think seven or nine polls. He thinks he could do about four hours a piece. Yeah. So yeah.

22:30So it's not like Yeah. It's each pole is a half a day event.

22:34It's not a design where the pole needs to come out or anything. Everything's staying as it is. just they need to dig right next to the pole because there is likely waste right there.

22:44So, um on that front, uh this week we had Jim and Andrew last week in the in the email loop.

22:51Would that be a free charge? Uh that they should be paying for that.

22:55It's in their contract. They being the contractor would I presume the contractor will has a budget to pay

23:05grid grid or grid sub to do that. Was that called out or would the contractor had to have known that it was called out? We said you're going to have to hold.

23:13You're going to have to dig around. It's in the contract. So, there's a line item for that.

23:18But with that being said, you think there's actually going to be a charge for that? I don't know. I would think so. Really? I would doubt it. I would doubt it. I would doubt it.

23:25I don't know. I don't know.

23:28They're there polls, right? Some of them they're not Verizon poles, right? They're all national. They're grid poles.

23:32I don't know the inter interworkings of grid and how they work on that to be perfectly honest. I'm just curious. I don't care. I just curious.

23:38Bottom line is all parties know about it.

23:41So, it's getting getting them to come do it and and then fee if there's a fee. I If there's a

23:49fee, I presume it's in Amarillo's contract. Yeah. Because they were aware of it. Yeah. There's a line item.

23:56Yeah. They were aware of it. Um bedrock. Uh real quick, the back slope.

24:04Um there's a little more bedrock than we anticipated back there. May require some minor design changes which could result

24:11in using less cap, but we do have a profile for how to end the the cap into

24:18bedrock that might seal it in and leave it in place. So there's a couple pretty good knobs that are a little higher up the slope than we thought. We were

24:27thinking we're going to cap right over them. um to be determined working on the too. We just got to um they fly the site

24:33once a month for the drone and then we get those toos um and where this knob is. We're trying to figure out if that is in the drainage or not. We just got the flight yesterday.

24:45There's nothing they would hammer or nothing like that.

24:47Could if need be is there's a discussion, but there's just no information that we don't it looks looks like it's far enough low enough. We

24:56might need to the drainage basin is rocky where the drainage basin goes. So, we're kind of finagling that, moving that a little bit, which is fine. We can

25:05move that around. Um, and I don't know, Jim, what your opinion is, but um, you know, the slopes where

25:12they've moved the trash Certainly on the back half it's probably 20 to 30% trash and the rest is soil.

25:21When we did some test pits along the road I think some of those are going to be 50 70% trash. Yeah.

25:28So um it's there's no we haven't had a complaint or I have an individual I've I've been outside at least once a week doing a driveby. Have not seen a piece of trash in the road anything like that.

25:38So they're doing a pretty good job. It's also hasn't been bone dry in 50 mph winds, but it's been pretty good

25:46because that dump that landfill being much older, there's probably a lot less plastic in it. Probably more paper and less plastic.

25:54Yeah, it's Take a walk around it. It's really interesting to just walk that slope and see what's there because uh you know, I'm just saying it's plastic bag.

26:02There's not a ton.

26:03Yeah, I would I would think that there was probably not a lot. There's a lot of glass. Lot of tires.

26:07A lot of glass. Fair amount. They probably pulled 30, 40, 50 tires out because the require the permit says as you come across tires, you have to pull it out and dispose it, get rid of it.

26:16Um, there's a lot of glass. Um, and there's a fair amount of plastic. Um, but not like bags, you know, like today

26:24I walked through there was like a a bleach container or something like that. Yeah.

26:28Um, but like today everybody uses plastic bags. You know, if you tear into a new one, it's all plastic.

26:36But in general, um, things are going well.

26:40Uh, there will be an invoice forthcoming. It'll be a no charge invoice because we are we the town are ahead of them. So, we made you made a

26:48payment to them. But since they brought in material, their credit will supersede their their value of the work conducted.

26:55So, from an accounting perspective, um, Bruce is working on that. that'll come through, but it'll be it'll just be paperwork to show that um they've given

27:04a credit of X dollars and they've incurred X minus 50,000. So, we don't owe anything. Um material, stored

27:14material, the liner is on site. Probably saw it if you drove by. Um that is

27:21like eight acres of liners in there. I don't know if that's the whole line, all of it, but it's close. So that can sit there. There's no issue with that if

27:30that sits over the winter. Um it's just going to get covered with with a poly tarp. But um there's no

27:37degradation issues, no concern issues with that. So if they don't get a cap, that'll just stay there.

27:45Unless somebody comes and takes it for the reflecting pool in Washington.

27:503800 pounds per roll.

27:56Have at it. You got to you got to have some log truck leave the loader there with the forks.

28:02Hey, I just looked I just took a picture. I looked at it because I'm like those are heavy. Log truck would get it. 3800 lb [laughter] a piece.

28:10750 ft long. 23 feet wide. 3 ft wide. 23 feet wide. 750 ft long.

28:18How big's the rolls? Two feet. Two and a half ft. Well, that's like four feet, Gary. They're big.

28:26He's got big feet. [laughter] All right, that's for the high level talks. What do you have? You have any lowlevel talks?

28:34I really don't. Um there's really no um specific picky issues. Everything is is

28:41going pretty smooth.

28:44Um the chair vice chair. John, you got anything?

28:51I didn't know if it said vice chair. I [laughter] forget who's vice chair and No, I don't. Um, wait a minute. Hold on.

29:01I was thinking of one thing. No, pass me by. If I If I can think of it, I'll I'll bring it up. Steve, you got anything? Have I already spoke my mind?

29:09All right, Gary, did I cut you off or was that everything? No, that is everything. Jim, you got anything from Gary? No, I think like Derek said, well done.

29:17They're doing a good job and um, you know, just move forward.

29:22I stop by there every day. I go right by and what you have you brought?

29:26I don't put anything in my car and just look at my name on the board and say, "I wish that damn thing was." So to recap, our important numbers were

29:3661 homes, 43 on water. Yep.

29:41Five filtration systems, and then somewhere there was a 13 13 detect. 13 non detects. Got it. How long do you test the non detects?

29:49See cheat sheet. 13.

29:52We need a minimum of two years before we can kick back and say maybe to go semianual.

30:00That's kind of what we do. We take that approach instead of kicking them back. I don't specifically have that off top of my head where we are with that. I think

30:06we've kicked a couple back. Um but I don't I apologize for not that number.

30:13But that is our we're following VP's protocol on what we can do to reduce sampling obviously.

30:21All right. Well, thank you, Gary. And I would say you are excused, but welcome to stay. But we're going to move on with our meeting then.

30:28Well, you have no further questions.

30:30I'll excuse myself. Not that I think too too late. I've already excused you, so you can take me up on that offer.

30:40Good to see you. Thank you.

30:41And by the way, just one last point. You do get um we do have a an engineer on site when there's work and Jim gets some of the I don't know if you get all these

30:49reports but you do get a daily report photos documentation of what's going on.

30:54Um we could forward these to you but you'll get board chairs after a while.

30:59Um so those go in the final report in the monthly reports to D paper and they just show what happened, what materials

31:06came in, a couple photo documents of of everything. The erosion control looks great and everything. It's all documented but

31:13and that's the engineer hired through um basically basically a sub you can keep that basically a sell of Brucees and

31:21it's it's under the actual prices that we've given you because obviously it doesn't make sense to have somebody Bruce there every day.

31:28No. Is that the ledge concern right there?

31:30It is [cough] [clears throat] one of them. There's about three across that.

31:34So um yeah, if you did want to take a walk, I I encourage it. just um if you're there during the day, make sure

31:41you part of that. That's the guy that's running around with those. Yeah.

31:47Do they supply that if one of the board members?

31:50Um I I don't know. They probably have one. They should have They probably have one in the trail.

31:55Um if not, we'll get you one.

31:58Yeah, we have them here.

32:01Yeah. If you have your own site, you can't walk around without it. That's they don't want, you know, it's a work site. So, but you know, it's a land You've seen it before. So,

32:09it's it's not it's it's really not that exciting.

32:13I'm sorry. [laughter] I might like it.

32:15You You might like it. I might appreciate it. Yeah.

32:19Really cool things. He has an electric bulldozer. Wow.

32:24It's diesel power, but it's electric motors. Very cool.

32:27It's diesel electric hybrid. Is that what that is? No, it's a motor.

32:32Diesel electric. diesel motors running a generator running electric motors for the tracks.

32:41It's very quiet. It's amazing. You don't hear it. It's pretty cool. But that's a side note.

32:49Yeah.

32:49Sorry, I was losing my hearing. Like that thing's quiet. All right. Thank you.

32:58We're going to move on to department head reports if you have anything to press. I just end of the year budgets.

33:03We getting those uh our our contract tracing grant. We had a nurse Rihanna COVID cases still had that ended the

33:11excess money returned and she's no longer employed by the we thanked her for her service. She's been with us since co in the beginning and um she's

33:19had two children since then and certainly but she came in last day but she did a good job but that's federal uh FEMA grant money. It's been sent back what we didn't spend. Closed that out.

33:30We ended the uh a grant cycle. Andrea and I and Kim working to close that out.

33:34We balance that out. Endless meetings and stuff. Um we've done a lot of housing issues. Title five Tom's been in

33:42visiting with me. I had him pop up a few plans on my screen in here so we could take a look at him.

33:47Um he said he couldn't see him on his um his screen at home. Couldn't get him on his computer. So, okay.

33:53Tom's out there working away. And um I think at some point we should have um a talk to the board about the the

34:01long-term goals and where we want to go when I leave. As far as Kim has been working and I think it's tactics and

34:08strategies more, but I think there's some things I like to bring up to the board. So do we do that open session or is that going to be executive session?

34:17Um I don't know. I'll find out. But um we're seeing we're talking about personnel and stuff um and goals. We could do it in executive session.

34:26We'll set it up for next meeting. We'll do an executive session. Okay.

34:29For that, sure, sounds good. And then the member, the board member can read the uh reason why we're going into executive session.

34:42Wow. That's how it goes. Yeah. I'll have it all written out for you.

34:47Just bring your glasses cuz I don't recognize you on my take two days. [laughter] But I just think there's some things we should talk about. Okay.

34:55Certainly moving forward that um can show that things are running smoothly and where the board wants to go in what direction and certainly I'm training Kim

35:04for last years and stuff, but um she's ready to go there. But I think replacing Kim, we need to get someone that's going

35:11to be here to um sure that there's another person here. You know, I have Kim, but she wouldn't have she's not

35:18going to have anybody. So, need to hire someone else.

35:21Yeah. So, we'll we'll bring it up next meeting.

35:24Okay. And that's all I have um right now. John, do you have anything?

35:31No, nothing for me. Steve, do you have anything? Oh, sure.

35:36All right. Well, I don't have anything either. Everything's been quiet to be honest with you. Good.

35:41So, it looks like four weeks is going to put us around the 18th.

35:50One, two, three. Uh, no, maybe the 11th would be the fourth week. One, two.

35:58August 11th. No, the 18th is the fourth week. Yeah, that sounds better. August 18th. Yeah. Yeah.

36:02So, let's go for August 18th, Tuesday, 6:00 p.m. Um, we'll pencil it in and

36:10something comes up, we'll get that executive session if you think you'll be ready for the discussion at that time. I'm ready.

36:16Okay. So, we'll do that and we'll see what else comes up between now and then. Do I hear a motion to adjurnn?

36:22Uh, I make a motion that we adjourn tonight's July 21st, 2026 meeting. Second that motion. All in favor? I.

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